Did you guess what happened at Jess' house before the end of the book?
Rani says:
but i don't even know if nat's cousin is doing it anymore
yes i figured it out
Leslie says:
I thought they gave it away early on
Rani says:
yup totally
it drove me crazy he wouldn't tell!
Andrea says:
I had a pretty good idea, I knew he didn't hurt her
Leslie says:
I was sort of mad when they let on that the brother was in the house
Andrea says:
Me too
Rani says:
right
Leslie says:
I thought that they should have saved that twist till the end
Andrea says:
Brother should have totally stepped up sooner
Leslie says:
YUP
Was it believable that Jacob would try to cover for Theo without understanding that he was implicating himself in the murder?
Rani says:
yup agreed on both parts...he seriuosly was ready to let his bro go to jail
Leslie says:
I think it is so hard to understand the actions of someone with aspergers
Rani says:
Ok for the most part and for a typical asperger kid i would think so, but i have to say with as much as he knew about solving crimes i had a hard time buying that he would not have
Andrea says:
I think he would, it was part of the House Rules and he was very much into following them
Rani says:
he was totally a savant in that area
Leslie says:
Right, he seemed especially smart
Rani says:
right about the house rules
i forgot about that
it overuled i guess
Leslie says:
What do you think happened to the characters after they went to tell the judge about Theo being at the house? Were you upset that there was not more of a conclusion to the story?
I would like to believe that it was ruled as a mistrial and everyone was set free. But is it really that easy?
Rani says:
I got the feeling everything ended neatly and happy...whether or not it would have realistically I'm not sure.
Andrea says:
Very much so!!! I was sortof ticked I read 500+ pages and got totally ripped off in the end
I wanted more!
I like happy endings though, and while I think this had one, I wish it would have give me a little more
Leslie says:
Me too. In some sense I thought she really hit you over the head with Asperger's and could have cut down on some areas and added 20 more pages at the end
Andrea says:
I agree, I felt like she was repetitive sometimes
Rani says:
right, i have to agree there...in other aspects realistically a kid with asperger's that has been in therapy that long, i think he wouldn't have been that abnormal in other areas too
Leslie says:
Do you think an insanity defense if appropriate for someone with Asperger's? Why or why not?
I would say yes, but it made you feel like he was competent. If I was the mother of the victim I would have a harder time
Andrea says:
I am not sure on this one, I felt like he totally knew and understood what he was doing, so in this instance I don't think he needed an insanity plea I think he just needed to tell the truth
Rani says:
I think it depends on the person just like any murder case... in his case and the way the story was going i definitely think it was appropriate
Leslie says:
right.
Rani says:
i say appropriate obviously because he seemed incapable of telling what happened
Leslie says:
I blame the brother for coming forward.
Rani says:
i totally do
he knew better
Andrea says:
True, but I think if they would have put him on the stand and asked him to tell the truth he would have
Agree it was all the brothers fault
Leslie says:
It was frustrating that he could not see how simple the solution was. I could not image how it would be to deal with that on a daily basis.
It's amazing how many different challenges people have to go through in life
Rani says:
I know it seriously would be utterly difficult
Andrea says:
I couldn't either, the poor mother
Leslie says:
Do you know anyone with Asperger's syndrome? Did the descriptions of Jacob fit what you know of that person?
Rani says:
and i think the 3 year old currently sitting on my back begging to stay up is difficult
Leslie says:
I really don't know anyone with Asperger's
Is he really still up?!
Rani says:
Ok this is the only part of the book that frustrated me
i've done a lot of research on it
Leslie says:
And?
Rani says:
and from what i understand...and we know she got the kid in therapy from the getgo
Andrea says:
We have a kid in our primary, and he is really smart and super instense about certain things, but I probably don't know him well enough to say
Rani says:
a kid with asperger's can end up being pretty dang normal with therapy
Leslie says:
umm
Rani says:
and often get their diagnosis reversed
Leslie says:
really?
I really didn't know much about it before the book.
Rani says:
i think the story would have been more realistic if he had just plain autism
cause aspergers is suppose to be the highest functioning form of autism
Andrea says:
possibly, the spectrum for that is so huge
Leslie says:
I was curious to see what Nat has to say since she has worked a lot with autistic kids.
Rani says:
my friend annie's kid has asbergers, and was in therapy since he was 2, and now he is 7 and had his diagnosis reversed just last year
Andrea says:
That is great you can reverse it, I know I would be doing anything I could
i can't imagine not wanting to help my kid
Leslie says:
Did you learn anything new about Asperger's syndrome?
Rani says:
Well I think it's always interesting, and every case is different for sure...
Leslie says:
What did you think of Oliver's romance with Jacob's mother?
Rani says:
i loved the romance actually
i'm just a romantic, but he seemed nice and adorable
i loved that he got the food days too
Leslie says:
I thought it was sort of strange but I also thought they were trying to show that after years of putting her son first she was finally considering herself
Rani says:
good point
Andrea says:
At first I thought it was going to be the cop that she hooked up with, but I thought he was cute
I also liked the food thing
Rani says:
i thought the cop too at first
Leslie says:
Was the cop married/
Rani says:
divorced
Andrea says:
divorced
Leslie says:
oh, right
Overall did you like the book?
Rani says:
i really did, i thought it was very entertaining
i also liked that she wrote in her typical style
i feel it helps you get to know the characters better
Andrea says:
I did like it, I enjoy her style when she does the chapters for the different characters
I did wish there was a little more at the end though
Leslie says:
I thought it was interesting. I really didn't know much about Asperger's. I also liked her style
I like how she wrote it from the different character's point of view
Rani says:
did you guys read my sister's keeper too?
Leslie says:
She spent so much time developing the story and the characters that I thought she could have ended it a bit better.
yea. It was so hard to read. So sad.
Have you read any of her other books?
Rani says:
agreed, the ending left much to be desired
Andrea says:
That was the first one of hers that I had read, totally hated the end
Rani says:
i've read the two, and then saw the movie about the amish girl
Leslie says:
I hated the end but then I watched the move and hated that even more
What is the one about the amish girl.
Andrea says:
yeah I heard the movie ends different, I haven't seen it yet
Rani says:
ya i felt the same... i'm trying to remember the name
but she gets pregnant
and aborts her baby
i can't remember if she aborts it on purpose or not
Leslie says:
I should read a few more of hers when I have time
There are so many books I am waiting to read right now.
Rani says:
i know it gets hard!